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June 25, 2012

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John B.

Many thanks for this.
I just read a bio of Elder Païsios of Mt Athos, certainly a practitioner of your 'third path,' who for most of his adult life ate much less than most dietitians would say was necessary to sustain life. He went a long way toward being less distracted in the sense you talk about, so maybe his story is experimental evidence for Origen's theory.
More broadly, I appreciated your exploration of how we all get sucked into different, often competing, ideologies of eating, rather than just, you know, eating.

quinn o'neill

Having moved recently, I made my first journey to my nearest Whole Foods last week. Getting there took a bus ride and a lengthy walk through a high-traffic part of the city. As cars whizzed past, I was struck by the irony of the situation. Motor vehicle accidents injure and kill people on a regular basis and exhaust fumes contribute to cancer and respiratory illness; yet, health-conscious shoppers routinely pass by or join this heavy traffic with seemingly little concern about its effects. Could it be that, in our dangerous world, with ubiquitous threats to our health, following certain rules of diet and/or exercise alleviates anxiety by offering a sense of control over our own well-being?

In the grand scheme of things, everything seems to me to be intrinsically meaningless and unworthy of our attention. Distracting ourselves from this harsh reality seems as worthwhile as anything else. So I figure we should go ahead and starve ourselves or stuff ourselves, play sports, or smoke dope - whatever blows your hair back or gets you through the day. You only have one life and no one knows what the hell it's for.

Arun

While I am not middle aged, my friends and family would probably described me as being as tight-assed as the professionals you seem to dismiss. And I am curious as to why you vilify those of us who follow that second path you outlined above. What is wrong with quantifying diet, treating it as a science instead of an art, and planning out and executing a course of action that will lead to a goal that is clearly desirable for everyone (you can't deny this)? I fail to see why our moral cosmology is lacking, or indeed even relevant.

I also don't understand a few other things: how is Whole Foods, or indeed "elaborate" eating schemes (one example you may be referring to is the Paleo diet) as far from Nature as McDonald's (or more generally the eat-whatever-you-please diet)? One clear distinction that can be made between the two is the presence of refined sugars. These are certainly not present in nature, and are a byproduct of the industrial revolution. They are also almost certainly bad for us in many ways (I was reading a Science article that asserted that they cause tooth decay, gum disease, and even overbites, and that every civilization developed these problems when they went through with their own industrial revolution).

Lastly, when you say the path of the ascetic consists of "concentrating upon that thing from which, on a certain understanding, we’ve been distracted", what is that thing? It would be interesting to hear what you think.

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