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January 13, 2010

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Leon  Garcia G.

Thanks for the article and the tip to make a useful donation for the suffering Haitians.
In "La malédiction divine sur Haïti : un message ambigu et forcément caduc", Jean Galin provides a good summary of the myth of Bookman's satanic pact of 1791 in Bois Caiman.
(http://www.alterpresse.org/article.php3?id_article=1766)
I lived through Mexico City's big one in 1985, and I will never forget the daze of destruction, the scandal of the government inaction and the subsequent collapse of its legitimacy. But most of all, I will never forget the countless gestures of solidarity among the people, who took over the rescue efforts in what was truly an apocalyptic scenario.
Coming back to the subject of curses and divine punishments, Pat Robertson should know that el caudillo y dictador mexicano Porfirio Díaz clarified once and for all the dialectics of les pays maudits when he said: "¡Pobre México, tan lejos de Dios y tan cerca de los Estados Unidos!"
Just change the first and last subjects for whatever countries you wish, and you'll see how this business of divine punishment really works!
But then, Haiti is particularly close to the USA-- its slums are largely a function of its status as America's client. Contrast neighboring, godless Cuba, and see who really lives under a curse, Mr Robertson!

Luke Lea

Didn't the Haitian rebels slaughter all the white Europeans in the country during the revolution? Could this have something to do with the country's subsequent history? Look at the other end of the island for comparison.

Ed Emmer

Thanks for the tip.
I was surprised by the way that you didn't throw in a Lisbon 1755 (Leibniz/Voltaire/Kant) reference when mentioning Pat Robertson's remarks about the Earthquake and Haiti's alleged pact with the devil.

fred dijs

justin,

thanks to 3 quarksdaily for finding this blog entry.
thanks to you for giving the link to yele.org.

i felt like donating although i never donate.

so i started to make a payment
to the dutch national aid-conglomerate.

but i hesitated and stopped.

it appeared to be a too global operation,
serving the west, 'us', too well.

so, now i donated to a haitian organisation.

i hope you were right by suggesting that.

fred dijs, amsterdam

Ruchira

As for Pat Robertson, even God is embarrassed.
http://borowitzreport.com/article.aspx?ID=7090

I personally trust Doctors Without Borders during such emergencies. This is an agency that is always reliable.

fred dijs

justin,

unfortunately i am forced to have seconds thoughts
about my contribution to yele.org for help in haiti.

the smoking gun is reporting dubious transactions bij yele.org, see
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0114102wyclef1.html.

might it be in this case as well
that charity is the mask of greed?

fred dijs, amsterdam

Steve

The truth is that they did make a pact with the devil.

Now the significance you put on that pact I guess has to do with whether you believe the devil is real or not.

But it is one of Haiti's founding myths.

http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/small_axe/v009/9.2laroche.html

According to Haitian national history, the revolutionary war was launched on the eve of a religious ceremony at a place in the north called Bwa Kayiman (Bois Caiman, in French). At that ceremony on August 14, 1791, an African slave named Boukman sacrificed a pig, and both Kongo and Creole spirits descended to possess the bodies of the participants, encouraging them and fortifying them for the upcoming revolutionary war. Despite deep ambivalence on the part of intellectuals, Catholics, and the moneyed classes, Vodou has always been linked with militarism and the war of independence and, through it, the pride of national sovereignty.

So, yeah if there is a devil, Haiti made a pact with it. Might explain why even though Haiti and the Dominican Republic share the same island, the Dominican Republic has been far more successful.

RothSUMMER

I took 1 st mortgage loans when I was 25 and it aided my family a lot. But, I require the small business loan over again.

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