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October 22, 2009

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Johannes Haag

Nice translation, but there seems to be an active/passive-slip in the next to last line. (The short and burning kiss actually being a cipher for (presumably aggressive) sexual intercourse.)
Cheers, Johannes

Justin E. H. Smith

You're right, I struggled with those last two lines for a long time. I noticed that the verb was active in both cases, but decided to override the surface grammar for what I thought *had* to be the intended meaning. I thought there must be some rare, poetic meaning of besämen in which it functions passively. But I guess George wants to say that his hero *himself* conceived from the holy womb and then pushed into pain and danger. I'll see if I can rework it. (What I love about George's poetry is that there is almost always an Anglo-Saxon lexical equivalent for the words he chooses that enables an English translator to preserve his meter down to the syllable.)

Johannes Haag

Well, I am not sure wether the 'lad of ancient lore' (as you have it so nicely) is conceived from the holy womb. I think George is referring to the lad's own 'Schoß' ('Schoß' being mostly, but not necessarily and only, womb, It could be used here to refer to the lad's genitals, the unusual wording reflecting the androgynous appearance of the lad in the first lines of the poem).There thus seems to be a direct connection between the short and burning kiss and the act of 'seeding'.

Justin E. H. Smith

How's this? It seems somehow more overtly obscene than the German (though I could have gone for much worse than 'shaft'), and unfortunately too alliterative, but it's the best I can do. I would not have known, otherwise, that 'Schoss' can refer either to female or male anatomy.

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